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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Chris Bell
Crosstex Energy IR Specialist
Barry Davis
Crosstex Energy Chairman, President, CEO
Bill Davis
Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Sharon Lui
Wachovia Capital Markets Analyst
Darren Horowitz
Raymond James Analyst
Ryan Greener
Harvest Fund Advisors Analyst
Allen Benello
White River Partners Analyst
James Jampel
Hite Analyst
Harab Benhani
Telemus Capital Analyst
Daniel Moore
Aquamarine Capital Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Crosstex Energy conference call. My name is
Kim, and I will be your coordinator for today. At this time all participants are in listen-only
mode. We will be facilitating a question and answer session towards the end of todays conference.
(Operator Instructions). I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for todays
call, Ms. Chris Bell of Crosstex Energy. Please proceed, maam.
Chris
Bell Crosstex Energy IR Specialist
Thank you. And good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. On the call today are Barry
Davis, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; Bill Davis, Executive Vice President and
Chief Financial Officer; and Bob Purgason, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer.
Barry will update 2008 guidance, discuss the impact of recent Gulf Coast hurricanes and provide
initial indications of 2009 financing plan. Then Barry, Bill and Bob will answer your questions. If
you want to listen to a recording of todays call you have 30 days to access the replay by phone or
webcast on our website at www.CrosstexEnergy.com.
As we begin this mornings call I will remind you that any statements that might include our
expectations or predictions should be considered forward-looking statements within the meaning of
the federal securities laws. These statements are based on certain assumptions based on
managements experience and perception of historical trends, current conditions, expected future
developments and other factors we believe are appropriate in the circumstances. These statements
include, but are not limited to, statements with respect to future financial performance and access
to capital.
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Such statements are subject to a number of assumptions, risks and uncertainties, many of which are
beyond our control, which may cause our actual results to differ materially from those implied or
expressed by the forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ
materially from their expectations are included in the periodic reports we filed with the SEC. We
encourage you to carefully review and consider the cautionary statements and other disclosures made
in those filings, specifically those under the heading risk factors. We undertake no obligation
to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements whether as a result of new information,
future events or otherwise.
I will now turn the call over to Barry Davis.
Barry Davis Crosstex Energy Chairman, President, CEO
Good morning, and thank you for joining us on the call today. In light of the current turmoil
in the financial markets and the recent hurricanes that have affected Crosstexs operations, weve
received phone calls from many of you. We are holding this call to ensure that each of you are
adequately informed of what these events mean to Crosstex and to fill any gaps of information that
may exist. We will update you on the latest information we have regarding the impact of the recent
hurricanes. We will give you our outlook for the remainder of 2008 and our plans for 2009,
including financing our growth projects.
We want you to understand our business plan going forward in these unprecedented times. We think
Wall Street is doing a poor job of distinguishing between companies that need capital to execute a
growth plan versus those that need capital to survive. We are clearly in the former group. The
fundamentals of our business are strong. We have great assets that are necessary to serve the
nations energy needs. These assets are in strategic locations, providing access to key producing
regions such as the Barnett Shale and the emerging Haynesville plays. These assets are
characterized by solid and long-term sustainable cash flows and they are run by dedicated and
professional employee groups.
First of all, I want to address our distributions and dividends. We expect to pay out at least
$2.51 to our unit holders, which is our current distribution rate. We expect to do this with
approximately one times coverage for the year. This will, in turn, allow us to pay at least the
$1.50 dividend to our XTXI shareholders.
Secondly, regarding our near-term liquidity, as stated in our last call we currently have over $200
million available under our revolver, and we expect to end the year with at least that much
available. Under our current plan we would still have over $100 million of availability under our
revolver at the end of 2009 even without accessing the capital markets during this period. Our
revolver is in place currently through the middle of 2011.
Next, I will address the financing of our already announced and future growth opportunities. Given
the uncertainties of the capital markets, we are pursuing a backup plan. Under this plan we assume
a continuation of the current gridlock in the markets for an extended period and that we are not
able to access the traditional MLP debt for equity markets from now through the end of 2009. We are
working with a number of strategic and financial investors on alternative sources of capital for
our projects, and we believe the capital will be available to fund our projects from these
nontraditional sources.
While we are still working on the details of these alternative financings because of our asset
position we have lots of attractive growth opportunities, and we are confident the capital is
available for good projects to allow us to continue to provide important and growing services to
our customers.
Turning back to our distributions, we still expect to grow our distribution in 2009 and beyond.
This growth will first come from the cash flows from our existing asset base which are still
growing. On future asset growth, the rate of distribution increase will be impacted by the
financing available. If markets for our traditional financing return, we expect to achieve growth
consistent with what weve previously communicated.
On the other hand, the alternative financing strategies will likely generate slower growth in our
distribution than would be the case if we used traditional MLP financing. However, even under the
alternative plan we still expect to have increases in our distribution each of the next two years
over current year, including the effects of the conversion of the sub D units in the first quarter
of 2009. We expect the current year to be at least $2.51 with approximately one times coverage
despite the impacts of the hurricanes.
As a result, we expect continued significant growth in the dividend at XTXI from the anticipated
$1.50 this year, each of the next two years. We stated that we have potential negative impacts from
the hurricanes in September, on our results of around $12 million to $14 million, all from having
gas shut in due to the storms and our share of repair costs. Physical damage to our plants is less
than $5 million, which is all covered by
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insurance. Worst case impacts in the fourth quarter are currently estimated at $4 million to $5
million, assuming Sabine and Pelican plants remain in their current state throughout the full
fourth quarter. We anticipate that the plants will resume normal operations during the fourth
quarter.
The Pelican plant is operating today at reduced volumes waiting for the offshore pipelines to
complete their repairs, which are expected in the next several weeks. The Sabine plant does have
some damage that needs to be repaired before it can be restarted, but some of the gas volumes have
already been restored and are bypassing the plant. One of the offshore pipelines that feeds Sabine
also sustained some damage, and repairs are expected to be complete and the flow resumed about the
same time as the plant is ready to run later in the fourth quarter.
In closing, I will summarize by saying that we expect to have sufficient cash flow to cover at
least our current distribution dividend rates through the end of this year with approximately one
times coverage. We expect continued growth in the distribution beginning with the first quarter of
2009. We have sufficient liquidity under our bank facility and have plans to retain that
availability through the end of 2009 without accessing the capital markets.
We have great assets, great opportunities around those assets and great people operating and
executing our plans. And lastly, we are continuing to focus on the creation of long-term value.
With that, I will turn it over to our operator to handle any of the questions and answers and
remind you that Bill Davis, Bob Purgason and myself will answer any questions you may have.
QUESTION AND ANSWER
Operator
(Operator Instructions).
Barry Davis Crosstex Energy Chairman, President, CEO
Operator, are you still on? We are actually silent here, so if you are trying to reach us, we
are not hearing you.
Operator
Yes, sir. I do hear you. Im sorry. It will be just another moment, please.
Barry Davis Crosstex Energy Chairman, President, CEO
Thank you.
Operator
Sharon Lui, Wachovia.
Sharon Lui Wachovia Capital Markets Analyst
I was wondering if you guys could just walk through the CapEx that you guys might have spent
in the third quarter; what your plans are for the balance of the year and maybe just walk through
how you get to the $200 million of availability in 09.
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
Let me outline that. First of all, as Barry said, our capital access is to fund growth
projects. So if that capital isnt there, we simply can defer the growth projects. So our plan
assumes that if we dont have access to capital, we dont spend the money going forward. In the
third quarter we will
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have spent approximately $55 million of growth capital. And in the fourth quarter we are going to
spend roughly an additional $45 million to $50 million. We are going to finance the balance of
those projects that we previously announced with the alternative capital that Barry mentioned.
In other words, we are going to set up alternative strategies to fund that capital; as a result we
get lower economics from those projects for ourselves, but these alternative strategies will fund
the projects and dont require us to get into the equity and debt markets, which as everyone knows
are sort of frozen up right now. So hopefully that and that is about as much detail as I can
give right now until we finalize some of the details around what these strategies will look like.
Sharon Lui Wachovia Capital Markets Analyst
OK. So is it safe to assume, I guess the projects that have been announced like the Bear Creek
processing plant and the Red River expansion is still going forward?
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
Yes, all the projects are going forward but perhaps under a different financing scheme than we
had originally intended.
Sharon Lui Wachovia Capital Markets Analyst
I guess in terms of the difference in returns under your alternative financing strategy, what
type of returns are you guys looking at right now?
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
We are assuming right now very low returns to us on the projects that are financed with this
alternative strategy. We think we will be able to do better than that, but that is what we are
assuming when we give guidance around our anticipated growth in the distribution and dividend next
year and beyond.
Sharon Lui Wachovia Capital Markets Analyst
Okay.
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
But until we finalize details of these, it is premature to give a whole lot more information
than that.
Sharon Lui Wachovia Capital Markets Analyst
Okay. Turning to the hurricane damage, can you just maybe walk through the hedges that you
have in place and if there is a risk that you might be over hedged?
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
No, our hedging strategy has always limited our hedging at the SLP assets, particularly during
the summer months, to about 25% of our total exposure. So we dont have any potential for being
over hedged there.
Sharon Lui Wachovia Capital Markets Analyst
Okay, thank you.
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Operator
Darren Horowitz, Raymond James.
Darren Horowitz Raymond James Analyst
Bill, could you just walk us through from a debt to EBITDA perspective your coverage ratios
are? I think your initial guidance had hoped to exit the year somewhere around 3.8 times, and I
know that you got in April you restructured your debt covenants, and also adjusted that rate of
EBITDA coverage as it proceeds on a sequential basis. Can you just walk us through where you are at
or where you expect to end the year and how much financial latitude underneath that covenant you
have?
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
We will end the year, we think, at around 4.3 on a pro forma basis with debt to EBITDA and our
covenant is at 5. Going forward we will be we think at in next year we expect to be well within
our covenant based on what our calculations are right now.
Darren Horowitz Raymond James Analyst
Okay, and then secondly from a floating rate perspective, can you just give us a little bit
more color on the impact of the three-month LIBOR rate increase? And obviously interest expense in
the back half of this year and your expectations of that to continue for 2009?
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
We did a swap of all of our LIBOR not all of it, but $550 million of our LIBOR exposure,
and we got about $750 million outstanding. So most of that exposure is fixed, and our actual LIBOR
rates up to now have actually been below the level that we did the swap at. So we havent been
negatively impacted by that up to now.
Darren Horowitz Raymond James Analyst
Thanks. I appreciate it.
Operator
Joshua Slocum, Chieftain Capital Management
Unidentified Participant
Its Glenn. Barry, I wonder if you could talk about the pluses that you see for next years
EBITDA. Obviously if we dont have hurricane damage again of this magnitude that is maybe $16
million plus for next year. But could you talk about some of the other things and projects that you
spent money on this year that will be kicking in next year or drilling in the Barnett. Or any other
things that we should sort of factor in in thinking about where you are going to be next year?
Barry Davis Crosstex Energy Chairman, President, CEO
Absolutely, Glenn. As I stated in the call earlier, the growth that we anticipate coming to
the distribution and dividends next year begin really with the continued growth of our cash flow
from existing assets. As you know, weve been on a build now for the last 2.5 years almost in the
Barnett Shale, and we are continuing to see cash flows increase, and that will be the greatest
contributor to continued growth as those assets are now in place and we are seeing volumes build
behind the North Texas Barnett Shale facility. So that is the primary driver. We have substantial
growth there throughout this year and next year.
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We also earlier, about a year and a half ago completed the Red River expansion. We are still seeing
just terrific returns from that expansion. We are in the midst of the additional expansion of $260
million, which would really be part of the growth here toward or for the remainder of 2008 and
2009, the growth that capital that we will spend. But that is internal growth that we are expecting
to see substantial improvements in cash flow from.
We also have continued organic growth in our treating business. Substantial growth recently from
plants that weve been able to set in the Haynesville and in other places, just an improvement in
utilization of our existing inventory there. We are also seeing the value of that equipment
continue to increase in this robust environment so that we are able to see even on existing plants
better margins. So those are three areas that I would say will be the primary drivers for our
continued internal cash flow growth.
Unidentified Participant
Okay. I wonder if you can give us any ballpark range about since its so big and so
important for next year; perhaps we dont have a handle on it is what kind of improvement you
see coming out of North Texas. Like where, rough numbers, where you will be this year, where you
expect to be next year.
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
Glenn, its Bill here. I think we will be consistent with our previous indications on where
North Texas growth will be, and we will just ask for a little more time to refine those numbers
before we start going solid with them. I think when we do the third quarter earnings call, perhaps
in a couple weeks here we will be comfortable providing more granular detail on that with you. And
we will probably be able to give more specifics around some of these alternative financing
strategies at that point, as well.
Unidentified Participant
Great. Thank you. We will look forward to that.
Operator
Ryan Greener, Harvest Fund Advisors.
Ryan Greener Harvest Fund Advisors Analyst
Good morning. I have two questions. First off, how much of your borrowing base are you allowed
to borrow for distribution funding?
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
There are no restrictions.
Ryan Greener Harvest Fund Advisors Analyst
Okay. In terms of the you said you were going to have EBITDA ratio below 5 for 2008. How
are you defining EBITDA?
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
We have a pro forma EBITDA calculation defined in our credit facilities. We are basically the
pro forma EBITDA that is used in that calculation gives us credit for projects that are in
development or have been in a cash flowing state for less than a year. So we, as we borrow money to
build organic projects, we get partial credit in that pro forma EBITDA for their anticipated cash
flow once they are completed.
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Ryan Greener Harvest Fund Advisors Analyst
And then the question you mentioned your cost of equity right now as you know is too high to
generate any meaningful accretion. What are the thoughts on just cutting the distribution for a few
quarters to shore up the balance sheet?
Barry Davis Crosstex Energy Chairman, President, CEO
We would actually look at other ways to manage the balance sheet to where it needs to be, and
I think we are doing that in the alternative sources of financing that we are working on. We just
dont think that is their answer. Obviously that is a complete deviation from the MLP model, and we
think the MLP model still works.
Ryan Greener Harvest Fund Advisors Analyst
Great. Thank you.
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
I would just add to that, I am probably going to get slapped by the lawyers, but I just think
that cost of equity on our, as we look at it relative to our peer group is just out of line with
our planned expectations our expectations around growth in that distribution.
Operator
Alan Benello, White River Partners.
Allen Benello White River Partners Analyst
My question was already answered.
Operator
James Jampel, Hite.
James Jampel Hite Analyst
Im just wondering on that strategic alternative capital; when is the earliest in your view we
might see something like that?
Barry Davis Crosstex Energy Chairman, President, CEO
I would say the earliest is by the time that we communicate our third-quarter results, which
will be early November. And we will work hard to be in a position to communicate some of the
details at that point in time, which is only a month away.
James Jampel Hite Analyst
So it is possible we could have this source of capital in the fourth quarter?
Barry Davis Crosstex Energy Chairman, President, CEO
At least defined and beginning to fund, yes, the capital expenditures that early.
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[Harab Benhani][Telemos Capital]
Harab Benhani Telemus Capital Analyst
My question was answered, thank you.
Operator
Daniel Moore, Aquamarine Capital.
Daniel Moore Aquamarine Capital Analyst
Thank you for hosting the call and for taking the questions. Just quickly what is talk a
little bit about the risk of companies that you serve running into funding issues, sort of second
order FX.
Barry Davis Crosstex Energy Chairman, President, CEO
Let me address that. You are obviously seeing the same things that we are that producers are
looking at their capital budgets. The good news is that we are dealing in the best of areas with
the best of operators, and we think that good operators are currently in a great position. Weve
been in a great environment for producers for the last couple of years. Their balance sheets are in
great shape. For example, Devon, which is one of the key drivers for our Barnett Shale growth has
probably never been in better shape. Some of the key people we are working with in the Haynesville
are certainly allocating their resources to the Haynesville first. So we understand that there is
risk there and certainly the turbulence in the markets has got everybody looking at things a little
differently. But we think that we will be able to manage through that risk working with the folks
that we are.
Daniel Moore Aquamarine Capital Analyst
Appreciate it. And I think I know the answer to this, but just looking at an obviously weaker
and weaker general economic outlook, having any impact on your decisions on new projects one; or
the outlook for volumes flowing into 09 and beyond.
Barry Davis Crosstex Energy Chairman, President, CEO
Again, we think that we have a great set of assets in a diverse area in the best of producing
areas, and those assets are going to continue to perform well. We are still serving a necessary
piece of the industry. We are getting gas to market. The market is going to continue to demand this
gas supply. We are the link to the source, so we feel good about that.
As far as the growth, again, we think that because of the great assets and the premiere
opportunities, if you will, we think that there will be funding available and returns that allow us
to continue to do these projects. If we are wrong, then we pull back on the amount of the growth.
We still think there is a minimum level of growth that will be required to get gas to market but
certainly it could be impacted on the top side.
Daniel Moore Aquamarine Capital Analyst
Greatly appreciate it.
Operator
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Alan Benello, White River Partners.
Allen Benello White River Partners Analyst
I thought of another question. If you raise alternative capital that is at a higher cost than
what you traditionally have been able to raise capital at, are you going to keep the option to
refinance at a later date if the capital markets ever come back to normal?
Bill Davis Crosstex Energy EVP, CFO
Allen, I dont want to get into too many specifics around the terms that we are negotiating,
but basically yes. That capital would over a period of time and the returns going to that capital
would over a period of time come back to us.
Allen Benello White River Partners Analyst
Okay.
Operator
Time has expired for the question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back
over to Mr. Davis for closing remarks.
Barry Davis Crosstex Energy Chairman, President, CEO
Thank you, Kim. And again, I want to thank all of you for being on the call today. We
appreciate your interest and your support. We will continue and let me just say that of all the
things that are most important is for us to stay focused, to continue to execute our plan. And we
intend to do that. We think these times will pass, and we appreciate again, your patience and your
support during this time. So thanks for the call. We look forward to talking to you in about a
month.
Operator
Thank you for your participation in todays conference. This concludes the presentation. You
may now disconnect. Have a great day.
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